Excellent Article diving into a Geometric Analysis of the Pre-Dynastic Ancient Egyptian Granite Vase

https://unsigned.io/granite-artifact/

Check out the link to an excellent article just released with further analysis of the scanned granite vase. I was very happy to read this, it’s EXACTLY what we had hoped would happen with the public release of the STL data. Mark at unsigned.io has furthered our understanding of just how remarkable this ancient artifact is – and there are some jaw dropping insights here. 

I think a lot of this work shows design intent – in that the artifact must have been designed in some system and then fabricated, rather than just created, by hand and eye, with primitive tools. Of course, when it comes to the many examples of ancient precision and technology, this has been my hypothesis all along, and I have to say it is very gratifying to see this reflected in the data. The implications of this data are truly staggering for our understanding of history – which I suppose is the real reason behind some of the mainstream resistance to any of these ideas, or this data. 

Very highly recommended!

Also, if you’re a twitter user, one of my very own Patrons Marián Marčiš @mariusderomanu3 (on twitter) is also doing excellent work and analysis of the vase! 

Cheers,

Ben

9 thoughts on “Excellent Article diving into a Geometric Analysis of the Pre-Dynastic Ancient Egyptian Granite Vase”

  1. hi from germany… there is a video up on ytube from ramon, the “right hand” of erich von däniken, talking about massive drill holes inside and around the empty grave of “Sechemhet”… (in german – but i guess you know how to translate it of even how to get your head around what he talks about…)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitiEIErzhA

    have a look, just in case there is something new for your…
    in short, what made me think of you: all kinds of drillholes right inside this once sealed grave and some massive 50cm diameter holes in about 15 meters hight…

    that’s it.
    i love what you do!

    all the best,
    oliver.
    drummer, engineer, 3d-printing-professional…

    🙂

  2. The answer to all this lays in analysing the history of Hiroglyphics, a writing format that would have been inherited by the survivors of the Younger Dryas. And of course evolved over millenia as all languages and writing does.

    The Younger Dryas event destroyed norther egypt and making it unlivable for a time. The remnants would have been in the deep south of Egypt, some may have had writing skills still. Most would have been illiterate or with basic skills.
    Don’t be fooled by the ‘rudimentary’ Hiroglyphs found as evidence of its development, that is evidence of the remnant returning.

    Archeaglogy should be searching for writing evidence in the earliest times after the Younger Dryas in the deep south of Egypt, into Africa, where the remnant would have had to live.

  3. If we measure the vase in cubit, hand and finger lengths, something interesting happens.

    The thoth (royal) cubit (tc) consists of 7 hands per cubit, and 4 fingers per hand. Thus a cubit length of 524 mm per cubit (tc), results in 74.86 mm hands (th), and 18.71 mm fingers (tf). So if we re-measure the vase in its original units we achieve the following:

    – Greatest diameter: … 84.8mm … 4.53 tf

    – Diameter of base: .. .. 45.2mm … 2.41 tf

    – Diameter of top: .. .. .. 58.9mm … 3.15 tf

    – Diameter of opening: . 37.5mm … 2.00 tf

    Interesting. As you can see, the internal diameter of the vase mouth is exactly two fingers in diameter – to two decimal places no less. This is unlikely to be coincidental, and might well suggest a cognitive design using the thoth cubit measurement system. Plus machining equipment that can fabricate that cogent design to incredible precision. Because if we assume a thoth cubit measure of 524 mm, the mouth of the vase appears to be only 0.005 mm larger than nominal. That is just 5 microns, or 0.2 thou, larger than nominal.

    We would need several examples of this unit of measure do derive an accurate result, but perhaps we can use this lone but interesting example to speculate on a more accurate definition of the thoth cubit. So if we recalculate, using the two-finger vase opening 37.5 mm, we derive a cubit length of 525 mm and a finger length of 18.75 mm. And from this we can also back-engineer the vase to derive the following finger measurements.

    – Greatest diameter: .. .. 4.523 tf

    – Diameter of base: .. .. 2.411 tf

    – Diameter of top: .. .. .. 3.1413 tf

    – Diameter of opening: . 2.000 tf

    And if we want to speculate even further, then perhaps we might note that the external diameter of the top of the vase is looking very much like Pi (3.1416).

    And while you might find that observation to be unnecessarily speculative, unjustified and esoteric, do remember that the pyramids of Giza and Dahshur contain similar mathematical constants and formulae within their designs. The great Pyramid is a Pi pyramid that embodies the formula for a circle, while the Second and Red pyramids are both pythagorean pyramids. So it would not be unusual to spot a mathematical constant within these ancient Egyptian designs and artifacts.

    Egyptian and Judaic chroniclers loved to play with words and hidden linguistic symbolism; while their architects and engineers loved to play with numbers and hidden mathematical symbolism. So was this stone vase designed as a Pi vase, just like the Great Pyramid was designed as a Pi pyramid?

    Ralph Ellis

  4. Hi Ben I have modified a copy of the vase to make it better for 3d printing. It has a few fudges that will affect accuracy for measuring purposes between the interior and exterior. (I recreated the missing section of the internals using a clone of the outside walls) and fixed the tunnels in the handles a bit crudely. Here’s a live video series on the repairs https://youtube.com/live/WSLDi098DtE contact me via instagram 3d_printing_revolution or via the email provided on this form and i’ll send you all my files

  5. Why do you think they made so many vases? You are saying they made thousands of these things, why would they do that? Or do you think something happened that destroyed everything else, and these are what was left? These must have had some purpose, they must have held some liquid or substance, and there must have been a reason they are made of granite. The only thing I can think of is some sort of acid that needed to be stored in stone as it would erode other materials. Let me know what you think.

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