Chuck from the channel cfapps7865 and I sit down to explore several aspects of the Great Pyramid at Giza. A casual conversation using some of my footage as talking point material, we go on a journey into the pyramid, through Mahmoud’s Hole, into the Grand Gallery and look at several aspects of the Kings Chamber!
Chucks Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt2yxX9jhtBEapmep_K468A
Hey Ben,
My name is Gabe, I have left comments on several of your YouTube vids. First off, you’re doing a fantastic job. You’re content is easy to watch and well articulated.
I have a lot of questions but in the spirit of keeping this short…ish, I’ll fire just one at you, with several related questions.
What is your position on Hieroglyphics? Can any of it be attributed to an ancient advanced civilization or is it all graffiti that the Egyptians chose at some point to start scribbling on the monuments and buildings that they inherited? On many of the structures it is blatantly obvious we are looking at scratch marks on work that was done by a much more advanced tech. But some of the reliefs and or carvings especially on many of the Obelisks are just mind blowing. In fact they appear to have been machined. Which then leads me to believe that the Egyptians adopted the system from an advanced civilization since it seems unlikely they themselves could have made many of the more advanced glyphs.
I have been a metrology technician for a long time for a company that builds plasma cutting torches and although I am not familiar with stone work, I know the signatures of precision when I see them, I work with tolerances of +/-.0005 for a living and many of the glyphs look to0 precise to have been done by hand with copper chisels.
Yousef talks about this in my ‘conclusions’ video on the Serapeum, and I agree with him. He says that even the best glyphs, the deep ones into hard stone, are still all done by hand, and that he has not seen any evidence of advanced machining in the creation of the glyphs themselves, although we do see such marks on actual objects, the slabs, boxes and statues.
Based on that, my theory is that all the writing was added by the Dynastic Egpytians. Clearly they modelled themselves after the ‘builders,’ as the statues LOOK like ancient egyptians, so I think there’s a lot of cultural linkage, but I don’t think the builders made the writing, it came later with the dynastic civilization. Just a working theory, I’m certainly open to it being challenged, and next time I’m in Egypt I’m going to be taking a very close look at as many examples of the ‘precise’ writing that I can. You’re right that some of them look very clean, but Yousef insists that he knows how they were done. They had access to iron after the old kingdom period (and some evidence that there was iron during it, meteoric at least).
Hi, have you looked at any of Michael tellingers’ work on resonance? Easy to find on YT.
Hi, have you looked at any of Michael tellingers’ work on resonance? Easy to find on YT.
Also Christopher Dunn’s work could be informative to you also.
JohnLevi on YT also interesting. He appears to be interested in humanities history which is not taught but discovers interesting anomalies because of his research into old maps and photographs.
I make extensive use of Chris Dunn’s work, particularly in my Serapeum series. I’ve watched a few lectures from Tellinger, interesting stuff! Thanks for the comment I’ll check out John Levi also.
As Gabe is into, and I has ask myself this.
This is a very important question.
I know what Jousef say and I was in Egypt in March and I’m a CNC machinist, but I has not stone work experience, but can say on machining or not.
What regards the hieroglyphics I had to little time into that on this trip.
( this question came to me after I came home )
Ok, say Jousef is correct.
But again.
We think this very complex stonework we see in slabs, statues, obelisk etc must come from a older civilisations, and that might been a catastrophe say 12.500 years ago.
I’m into that as the new dynasties never could quarry it, etc etc.
Say they never was any writings on them at that time ‘before’ the catastrophe.
But how do we explain this crunched slabs that has text on them, and they is cracked in mid of a text ?
I can’t get that ?
Should the new dynasty do that, and if so why ?
I’m shore if we dig this slabs that is underground it is text under them to.
It is to be seen in ex many of Brian Foresters movies cracked slabs whit text on them.
I’m shore like to get more into this and hear what Jousef thinks on it.
Also it should be very interesting to hear of stone in Cairo that got stones from Giza, and maybe the pyramids and see if it is text on them.
But one thing is there and inside this older pyramids it’s no text.
Maybe it was a ‘factory’ and no deal has text inside ?
Ben, I hope you can ask Jousef more on this !
This one is great with Randall Carlson ob show flood and the firestorm at 12.500 years ago ;
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=randall+carlson&&view=detail&mid=6B1C573737ED95B698A06B1C573737ED95B698A0&&FORM=VRDGAR
Another thing for debate ;
If the statues had no hieroglyphs, and they are pre the dynasties.
How could they look as the ‘dynasties’ ?
I think there was a tighter connection between the ‘builders’ and the dynastic egyptians. It’s what they themselves said, they’re a legacy culture. They modelled themselves after the builders, their gods, zep tepi etc. We can’t really separate that culture shown in the statues from them, I think it was them.
This is very interesting !
At cfapps7865 talking about the Pyramid Zawyet El Aryan, south of Giza.
Now we talking megaliths.
Wounder if Jousef has some more info.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cfapps7865&&view=detail&mid=0C99D61EFAA51C87EF470C99D61EFAA51C87EF47&&FORM=VDRVRV
This is a wow.
This guy Hawass..
http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/zawyet.html
The Tub
Although Barsanti never called it a sarcophagus because he clearly saw that this was not the case, modern archaeologist still call it so. Alexandre Moret, the French archaeologist mentioned before, also did not call it a sarcophagus; he called it a vat: “In one of the granite blocks an oval vat (une cuve ovale, in French) has been cut out; it is two meters long and one meter deep; a beautiful lid with four ear cups protects it; The whole thing is polished like a mirror and shaped with the same care as an ornament.”
That tub is amazing, too bad the whole place is now a land fill for the army.
Ben,
If one see at Google maps it’s a area left where the shaft is, but if is filled or not I can’t say. ( one can see a shaft anyway )
Maybe this area is nowhere one can pay to get in.. but who knows ?
One can wonder how many pyramids Giza had, and I can guess ex Saqqara is build on a older megalithic pyramid to.
It’s obvious to me we had a advanced civilisation here before the flood, aka proof of machining/quarry etc but if this sites is +12.000 years old or 15 or 20 or 50, who can tell.
I has been in Egypt 2 times and I has no ‘special’ feelings at this sites, but 2 word ring in my ear, and ; this is OLD and what the fXXX happened here.
But it’s a tragedy among people on Earth how governments are doing here, just to get the archaeology and their ideas right, but on the other hand if people wave up and realise this things that is more or less impossible did happens, we might can start to think wider and people like that is not good for elite in a materialise world of consumption and free slavery/policery.
On the date on statue vs pre dynastic and the dynastic.
Well, they might is a legacy culture, and I guess we can think it is.
But, that don’t explain the crashed slabs etc whit text on them.
Brian Forrester showed real burned slabs in a north of Cairo in ex Tunis, and it was text on them and if we think text was the dynastic as we see it ( made whit steel tools etc ) but how can text the burned ?
That to me indicate text was there before the catastrophe – right ?
And before the catastrophe we had ( as we think ) the original builders.
Egyptians should be ashame.
They made this to a dump hole of trash. Why ?
I got a feeling, if they could not get cash down there from tourists, they would bulldoze it all off.
-This is the most strange thing I came across so far.
Gets me very upset of this guys behaviours.
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/egypt/Zawyet_El-Aryan.htm
More ;
https://www.academia.edu/35033512/The_Great_Pit_of_Zawiyet_el-Aryan
One can wonder why on all places they had to build a military camp exact there, it don’t make sense at Zawyet El Aryan..
Could they not had it open and move the military complex 1 km ?
One of the most strange megalithic sites that has been found is a dump hole.
-This is a crime on human !
Where is our rights see it ?
And Abu Sir and Abu Rawash requires a special permission that costs more than 2000$ USD, why ?
Wonder what happens if one start walking out on Giza plateau.
It’s a desert and get people to take care of it and set a fee, so what’s the problem ?
No one of this machined slabs, drilled holes, spherical slabs is mentioned more than in our small group.
Jousef told me 99.9% of all visit kings chamber stay there for some seconds and get out very disappointed.
That’s how the story goes..
I can really recomend Keith Hamiltons work.
Barsanti did tear up granite the floor ( 30 ton slabs ) in the pit as he thought it was hidden chambers but he never found more, then VV1 came up. He died, and they cleaned it up for a movie on the 50’s but on the 60’s site was turn into a dump hole.
-Why the archelogy did not said a word is truly a mystory !
According, the slabs, the tub & lid is still down there.
Site could be re-open but will not vs the military.
Why in all sand of Giza just there…
Anyway, and this is very good information ;
They found and did documented dynastic text on tjus slans on its side and also under the floor.
This text is true dynastics.
So how do we explain this as this is a huge megalitic site, maybe the most strange site of them all.
Idea is no text as ’original’ builders did not use text.
Why would dynastic era rip floor out and out text under the slabs and put floor back ?
That don’t make sense to me.
Strange to me is original builders did look the ’same’ as the dynastic as well.
It’s something here in the timeline not make sense.
This pit with the tub just south of Giza pyramids has similarity with Abu-Rawash pit, and I think it’s also another one very close to that site as well.
Keith Hamilton is not into this was to be pyramids at all.
( This pit might be at many places at Giza area – why ? )
Take a look at page 47 on his nice illustrations.
https://www.academia.edu/35033512/The_Great_Pit_of_Zawiyet_el-Aryan
-Kind of impressing site in rose granite floor and nice cut walls !
( and why this granite all the time )
It must been for some very good reason to go over all that trouble.
One strange thing here is the some way in history people dumped the pit whit stones ( one can wonder why ) and now the military did the same thing..
Barsanti it was piled up to a height of 15 metres and consisted of 4200 cubic metres of
stone that some weighing up to 4 tons. ( look at page 16 )
-Why so urgent fill this hole up ?
When Barsanti came there he just Barley saw it could be something there year 1900.
Then he starting found money and got a 50 men crew 1904.
I has read some of his text translated.
Text that been found there ( even under slabs ) is 3-4 rd dynastic.
Can one here explain to me if original builders did this as no text, why would later dynastic ( that happens to look as them ) tear up the floor and put text there.
This was one idea that led Baranti think of hidden chambers ( as he never found more than the pit/tub.
One could taste it to see this tub…now,,,